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Feeling at a lose and frustrated

  • 29/02/2008 @ 00:32 livinglife said:
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    Hey all, first time posting here-forgive me if I babble.  I don't know, the last two weeks I've been all over the place; I suppose it started on that saturday night weeks ago.  I had that documentary on my mind "The Falling Man"-about the jumpers on 9/11.  It got me started about thinking about God, life after death, the nature of existance, the nature of the universe and time, evolution, questioning if we have souls etc.....just all that stuff that I suppose normal people don't think about.  And its basically taken over my life; I'm a masters student in political communication-and I always hated science, maybe it was my teachers-but i never really showed any interest in it.  Now, all I seem to do is be watching/reading the vastly contrasting views of hardcore athiests and religious people, reading up on quantam physics, chemical biology, astronomy, brain physiology etc.  On top of all that-I know, no one has all the answers-so I'm never going to be satisfied-even then I'm going to be pi##ed because I know I want to believe in a God-I just can't find any proof of it.  Its really bugging me how I can't get answers but I think I've become obsessed, when I should really be focusing on my work and getting papers writting and researched about media effects and public opinion.  I'm not sure, I've definatly noticed a change, not sure if anyone else has.

     

    anyway, sorry about the ramble 

  • 29/02/2008 @ 06:29 roze said:
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    Hey livinglife - welcome and congratulations on your first post! I don't read this as babble i read it as a search for meaning - which has to be a bit of a ramble - and is probably something that is lifelong. You talk about change in the questions that you are asking and where you are focused right now - and that you are bringing a sense of passionate enquiry to that (which may be a more helpful way of looking at it than obsession) - and I applaud your curiosity. Is it god you are in search of? How are you feeling about this journey you are making?
  • 29/02/2008 @ 07:47 zorro said:
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    HI there livinglife - welcome to Big White Wall! (we are all supreme babblers here, you are in good company ;)

    Your post reminds me so much of the man I am about to marry. HE turns himself into knots with these same questions, reads Hawking, Dawkins and Darwin cover to cover in search of answers and meaning to it all. The danger is that this kind of thinking, although interesting and challenging, can also lead to a sense of pointlessness. When you explore the harsh realities of the universe and how minimal and irrelevant your own individual impact is on 'the bigger picture' its easy to settle into irreverence. Thats really just a little warning, sometimes the answers are not the ones we are looking for. BUt I guess it sort of depends on why you are looking?

    Zx 

  • 29/02/2008 @ 08:17 Swon said:
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    Hi livinglife and a big welcome to the wall.

     

    Thanks for starting off with something nice and easy like the meaning of life the universe and everything. should be able to sort that out by lunchtime.  :-)

     

    Seriously though, I speak as one who lived 40 years without God, was then born again and have now gone right back to where I was before.

    I have two fantastic sons, the eldest a committed Christian and the other a committed non-spiritual-in-any-way person.

     

    My eldest was responsible for 'saving' me (and is now trying all over again) but I have far more in common with the younger one as regards the scientific aspects of life, it makes for interesting discussions when we are all together.

     

    I really need to write a much more detailed response to you but am short of time right now - I will get on it as soon as I can.

     

    Take care and thanks for brightening up my Friday.

  • 29/02/2008 @ 09:27 cate said:
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    Dear Liviglife.  I will share with you what my darling dad said to me as he lay dying in hospital 3 years ago " You know I still don't know what life is all about"

    Most of us somehow expect that life will reveal its meaning at some point that at least we'll have a glimmer of understanding. Its the question that haunts many.You have to ask yourself if it is worth pondering . I have put the question aside long ago and know my dad did too. I think he just emphasised the futility of asking over and over.  People who rely on religious beliefs are in a sense free from this kind of  torment then again no one is entirely free from uncertainty on a daily basis. You would not bite your nails over whether you'll make it back home as you close the front door.Yet there is no certainty that you will .I hope your laughing and not worrying about the prospect.Cheers- Cate X

  • 29/02/2008 @ 11:04 Brown Bear said:
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    I'm not a scientist but I like all things scientific so it didn't take me long to arrive at 'If there is a God, where is he?'.  I pondered that for many years till someone suggested that He is in all of the people we find around us, Good and Bad.  He isn't only good and marvellous - he sent that Tsunami did he not?  But he also sends us babies and birdsong and beaches.  I'd say 'Don't worry about it'  BB
  • 29/02/2008 @ 13:07 mmagdalene said:
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    livngforlife- your course sounds very interesting but then I am not the one who has to do all those papers etc. I have a bit of a passion for politics. I guess we will all find out if there is a God or not when we die. Mind you- those who do believe and arrive at the pearly gates to find it is all a furphy are not going to be too happy are they? Haha! Personally I am not too hot on orgnised religion of any type. Caused too much division, deaths, misery, corruption etc. over the generations methinks. But I can't help it- I do believe in God, Allah, Yahweh or whatever His name is- but I suspect He is not out there somewhere but inside us- the good stuff- snippets of peace, kindness, generosity, thoughtfulness that pours out of us on occassion and touches someone else in a warm way. But in the end does it really matter anyway? Maybe it is just a matter of living the best life we can at any given time, even if at some moments that an't so terrific but the best we could do at the time. And being satisfied that that is what we have done. We either return to the dust or reap the rewards in Heaven then.
  • 04/03/2008 @ 10:22 carol said:
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    Hi livinglive.......... will you do something? Will you sit on a chair in a quiet room for 60 seconds and ask God (or him or her, whatever name comes to you) to guide you in your quest. Then get on with your life and see what happens.

    Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but soon and for the rest of your life (who said that)?

     cheers

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