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.fkkng up. (one day at a time)

  • 11/08/2008 @ 17:10 thrash_unreal said:
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    i moved out.

    i moved back in.

    and suddenly, my children are misbehaving left and right. my walls are covered in sharpie, crayon and magic markers (oh! can't forget the purple nail polish). my make up is gone and smeared on the carpets of their bedroom. i have no toothpaste. there's a giant bleach stain on the floor of my living room...

    and the only thing i can think is: i should be a better parent than this.

    i'm so utterly frustrated that i just want to quit. i know i can't, i gave birth to them, but i really just want to sit in the middle of the floor and stare blankly off into space. this is not how i imagined my life. this is not how i wanted my children to act. i know they're young, but three months ago they were very different. i'm at my end. i just want to tie a noose and let it go that way... i don't fkkng know anymore.

    my marriage is saved.

    my kids are not.

     and i'm getting crazier each day.

  • 11/08/2008 @ 19:02 Swon said:
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    Hi again Thrash,

    I'm sorry your kids are messing you about, any idea why?

    You mentioned moving out and back in again and that your marriage is saved so, forgive me if I've missed a couple of volumes but I assume you are back with your husband?

    Did you take the kids with you when you moved out or leave them with their father?

    How long have you been gone?

    Anyone else involved, if yes, does anyone else know; particularly the kids?

    Oh yes, how old are the children and how many of them?

     

    You've been here long enought to know that we want to help, but a bit more info would be handy please.

     

    Take care,

    Swon (I was probably s1dg5y last time you were here - don't ask)

  • 11/08/2008 @ 20:52 UMxx said:
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    Hi thrash, 

    You have a plateful at the moment eh?  Maybe leave the house and take your kids to a playground and let them run it right out of their system - better hope you have a playground which is fenced - they sound as if they can move quickly.

     

    What ever is happening at the moment - sounds like you have been here before - I am sending you hugs and love.

    Is there anything else we can do?  UM xx 

  • 11/08/2008 @ 22:37 thrash_unreal said:
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    i have no idea.

    i honestly don't.

    my husband and i separated for a month, i moved in with my parents who, ultimately, allow my children to get away with murder of any kind. my discipline held no water bc, well, who's going to argue with grandpa and grandma? i was in no form or fashion mentally capable of defending my morals and beliefs so i didn't.


    now i'm paying for it, as is my husband.

    and i know they're only two and four, and my son may very well be autistic, but still...my daughter KNOWS better. she's also very, very good at manipluating the situation-- goes so far as to make sure he's caught and not her. it's a humiliating experience to know i'm the one at fault. i'm the reason she no longer says please and thank you and instead has replaced it with "you will buy me this" or "you will do that." i don't know how i'm to blame, but i know i am.


    and i want to just scream bc of it.


    as for the idea, UM, it's nice.

    in theory.

    except they both have a nasty habit of running in opposite directions. it literally is taking a village to raise these two now. and the village is full of idiots.
  • 13/08/2008 @ 21:29 summer76 said:
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    Hey thrash, you sound so immediately desperate  I felt I had to respond. For all the sxxx I am sometimes feeling your post reminds me that my time and space is at least my own.

     

     

    I know little about kids but your post does remind me of a dinner party I went to years ago. The two kids of the host were playing up upstairs and no one could relax or enjoy themselves. Fool that I am I thought I knew better than the innatentive mother and tried to have strict words with them. Nightmare. There was I thinking I was talking to 2 rational beings of the same species who would respond somehow to reason. If we could have spread them both on toast I think we all would have!! So I imagine many parents, and kids, have the same difficulties. It is not necessarily a comment on your parenting skills.

     

    As it is and for the record both of those kids are now fabulous young adults, Both with University Degrees. They are the kindest, most considerate youngsters you could meet. It's just that when I hear of them these days I always go back to that nightmare party so many years ago.

     

    Maybe not helping you much in the hear and now I know. Going back to my original point. It sounds like you need some time and space for yourself. Any chance of sorting that without worrying who is going to spoil the younguns in your absence. Not easy I am sure.

     

    Hope things can improve for you

     

    summer

     

    though understand I know bXXXXX all about kids

  • 13/08/2008 @ 22:19 UMxx said:
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    Hi thrash,

     

    Wll I was right about one thing - you sure have a plate full.  Who is older of your children - I am guessing it is your daughter?

     

    It takes so much emotional energy to do the parenting and disciplining of children - I had mine nearly 4 years apart - but two years - is a heroes burden.  We all have out ways of helping kids understand the rules that must be followed and it sounds like your little girl has a strong sense of herself - that will change.  I am used to drafting contracts - and so I remember writing up a list of house rules and pasting them on the kitchen cupboard.  It meant that I had to write the rules so that they would apply to everyone in the family.  Based on a well known precedent - the first rule was that Mum and Dad make all the rules.

     

    Somehow because they were written and because I could read out the rule and depersonalise it my ever so headstrong children understood that it wasn't me making up rules as I felt like it - they were consistent.  

     

    This was if your parents come to visit, you can ask them to fit in with the rules also - hope they play well in these situations.  

     

    Thinking of you - keep writing and stay connected maybe that will help release some of the pressure.  lots of big hugs  UMxx

  • 13/08/2008 @ 22:22 UMxx said:
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    Goodness sometimes I wonder - I don't hope you daughter loses who strong sense of herself - but think that the way she expresses it will! UMxx
  • 14/08/2008 @ 02:08 cate said:
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    Hi Thrash-Unreal.

    I'm sorry that things at home are causing you so much grief.

     Your children are still very young and rely on you to set the boundaries and keep them safe . The access to bleach has me worried . In your situation the hazardous stuff should be way out of the reach  of the children for starters.

     The period with your parents certainly would have left them confused and perhaps they don't realise yet that what is acceptable behaviour  varies from family to family. Perhaps sit down with the older child and talk this through.  Questioning the reasons for the behaviour may also give your child a chance to reveal their side . Consequences of actions - such as handling chemicals and talking through other possible dangers in the house around for instance the stove . Showing concern rather than anger at their behaviour  could  result in a more caring attitude from at least your older child

    A month is a long time in the life of a child and  having to readjust to home rules may take  time . The children may even wonder if perhaps they'll be back at grandma's . Adults behaviour may be seen as unpredictable and worrisome - you cannot know what is in their little minds  You may be feeling rotten and stressed but who knows what your children are feeling Thrash?

    It also sounds as though you could do with some time for yourself . Is there a childcare center  where you could drop them off for a few hours a week?

     I remember when my children were small looking forward to just a couple of hours off parenting  to get my head straight. Sometimes all i wanted was to be free of the  noise and the responsibility for their safety.  Caring for young ones has to be one of the most tiring and stressful times of our lives .

     How do you find time to look after yourself so that you can meet their needs ? Could  I  suggest  that your husband may be able to help you here . I hope that  you are able to make at least some  small changes  - a begining toward better times .

    With love Cate

  • 09/09/2008 @ 19:54 Muse said:
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    i am convinced the little b**gers pick up cues from their world and use them to moderate their mood cycles. And cycles, they are from sweetness and light and butter wouldn't melt to hooligan within 24 hours.  I have found that the only way to deal with it is with absolute rock solid consistency but sadly my husband doesn't always back me up on that one.  If in doubt, I find an early night for the kids and a large glass of something for me does the trick.
  • 10/09/2008 @ 13:39 roze said:
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    I hope that your kids have calmed down now. My daughter has had to live through her father and i divorcing over the last 18 months and his move into a new relationship. She has had to move houses a couple of times and shuttle between us. When she has used all my lipsticks to draw on the wall and poured all of my face products, suntan lotion and whatever else she can find into her bath, I try to remember that. Take care, hugs roze
  • 12/09/2008 @ 11:41 tracya said:
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    i can really relate to your original post...in fact this morning on my way back from the shop i vaguely remembered a dream i had last night about being completely overjoyed that my parentning days are almost over...(youngest is 17 1/2) but really i'll never stop being a mom...still get urgent calls from the 27 and 24 year olds!!

     

    i also went through a very loooong separation and divorce during the very important years of their childhoods...ex and i lived separated and got back together at least 3 times over 5 years and i feel in retrospect that was my biggest mistake. i feel that my kids sensed my weakness and saw me as my ex's doormat. when in fact i was just trying to keep our family together.

     

    when i finally did end the marraige i went to great lengths to gain control of "our" life....meaning me and the kids. i regained my self respect, got organized, took us on a few holidays and generally became The Mom again.

     

    if you are going to stay married, i would suggest that you and your husband support each other in taking control and being the parents. not in a mean, authoritarian way, just in being united, leadership way. kids crave a secure, safe place.....

     

    best wishes...BTW my kids have turned out great! a little bruised and battered like the rest of us but strong, confident, independent

  • 12/09/2008 @ 12:19 alba said:
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    There are always a reason why kids behave like that. Sounds to me as if they are trying to get attention ? Might they have felt neglegted during your separation and getting back together?
  • 12/09/2008 @ 16:55 thrash_unreal said:
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    in theory, alba, i'd say you were right.

     

    except...you're not. five years ago, when i got pregnant with my daughter, i made a decision to leave any workforce (and hope of maintaining my life without freaking out) and be a mother. i wanted my child to know who i was, i wanted to know who she was. i made the same choice when her brother came along. so it isn't lack of attention. what it's come down to, now that things have keeled out and i can see clearly again is they're bored. the summer months are too hot for them to just go out and play (plus its far too difficult for me alone to keep track of both of them at a park) and now it's rainy and damp all of the time (hello winter!!). so they're bored. my daughter started school so she's less likely to act out and more likely to throw temper tantrums over going to bed at a decent hour. and since she's gone for three hours a day, my son has evened out in his temperment, too.

     

    for the rest of you-- thank you so much for the support.  it was a really slakdjf difficult time and so far, we're getting through it.:) yay happy ending!!

  • 04/10/2008 @ 17:03 Muse said:
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    how are you doing thrash? i find that sometimes i just don't understand the moods of children, they can go through periods of not being happy with anything and having tantrums. it is tiring and annoying but some of them do it and some of them don't.

     

    hope you are OK.

     

  • 08/11/2008 @ 03:25 orange said:
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    heyyyy ,  i know it was a really hardtime for you , so u zoned out , but the kids will be okay once theyre used to discipline , your daughter may know better , but she is 4 , im not being judgemental when i say that  you knew u shd hv not let ur kids ur kids be all crazy , but u werent in any shape to cope n that fine , she may know better but so wat? we dont always do wat were supp to . i hope things get better for both of you ,.

     you made the decision to save your marriage , thats phenomenal dont let any thing  make you lose sight of that . everything will evntualy fall into place .

    huggssss

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