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My husband has a daughter i didnt know about

  • 09/09/2008 @ 05:35 snoopy said:
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    I have been married for 32 years. I found out my husband has a 34 year old daughter i didnt know existed. She now wants contact with him/my children. I cannot handle her existence and his deceit. He is determined we will stay married I am not financially independant and dont have the strength to leave him. Idont know if I even want to. I just dont know how to deal with this situation. I am quite religious and thought he had never had another partner. I feel anxious, ashamed and dont like lying about this. Ihave never met his daughter, he wants to pretend she doesnt exist and continue on as if nothing has changed.
  • 09/09/2008 @ 06:40 Wolfie said:
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    hello snoopy, what a shock this must have been after many years of married life. you must feel so outraged and confused at how you could have been married to you husband without knowing.  Why do you think he didn't tell you? And do you think that if he had it would have made any difference? - it was before you got married.

     

    Maybe you and your husband need to resolve your feelings about what has happened before you take a joint decision as to whether or not to agree to meeting his daughter. I hope you can work your way through this - it is a time of turmoil but I am sure you marriage is strong enough to bear it.

     

    Here for you snoopy, big hug.

     

    Wx

  • 09/09/2008 @ 08:42 snoopy said:
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    Hi Wolfie Thanks for your understanding - it helps to know someone acknowledges that it would upset me! I know it was before we were married but because I only found out recently it feels like it all happened recently not in the past. I feel like I cant meet her because my husband and I and our 2 adult children are a close foursome. She represents to me my husband and another woman like he had an affair. At the same time I feel guilty and mean not to want her to know her father. He has met her and didnt tell me but does not want a relationship with her. I would like to put her out of my mind and dont consciously try to think of her but it is in my head every day. How do I escape her?

  • 09/09/2008 @ 08:56 roze said:
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    Snoopy I can understand that this is a time of utter turmoil for you. It must be so very hard to live with the knowledge that your husband has carried this secret for all these years. It sounds as if you are a very strong family. Do your grown children know about this too?

    I sometimes wonder if the best way of escaping our demons is to face them? Inside our head we tend to make assumptions and fantasise about things so that they can appear much larger than they are. Do you know what happened - it could just be a very early mistake where no child was intended - and yet there is a child - who is now a grown woman - who wants to understand something of her own heritage. I can see how she may feel quite rejected for a second time in her life if your husband does not want to see her. 

    She does not have to be a threat to your family. Would you consider meeting her with your husband so you can see her for who she is and understand what is important to her. That would be a generous and courageous act but it may be more than you feel able to do. Thinking of you. Take care, roze

  • 09/09/2008 @ 10:08 UMxx said:
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    Dear Snoopy,

     

    I think if I had been in a relationship for so long and felt that I had been betrayed that I would feel angry and betrayed too.  I think the upset you feel is natural for how we operate within permanent relationship - it has to do with trust and certainty.

     

    I can only imagine that you husband was befuddled for some reason - or he is in denial about his daughter.  I don't know - have you been able to find an okay time within you self to ask him why he has never told you?  Just speaking for myself I would wonder - and worry about this aspect.

     

    But then I wonder what it would be like to be the woman who grew up without knowing who my father was and being as I am feeling like I was only half baked in not knowing the person who gave me some of my features and character - I would see myself as partly a puzzle.  I probably would dearly love to have some relationship with this man - even if it was an acknowledgement that I was kin.    If I was raised as an only child then the thought of having brothers and sisters would probably blow my brains - I would be excited and would be hoping that maybe I could have a relationship with them also.  Someone started a TA about finding out that they had a brother or sister in the past couple of months - I will go looking for this.

     

    I have a brother whom I love dearly and it wasn't until he was 45 that we were told he had a different father to the other three of us - he and my mother lived with this secret which ate at their hearts for 45 years because my mother was ashamed.  Well the times were different and the social context had changed.  I was in my mid twenties when I found out - it didn't change my relationship with my brother one iota - I would much rather have him in my life than not.  My relationship with my mother improved  as I wasn't at all concerned that she had a child before she had married my father - but I was pretty much in awe of a young woman who kept a child and worked against the social values of what was best for the baby - adoption in those days - to a "good " catholic family.  My mum loved my brother so much - they struggled on for 7 years alone and then my father came along and loved him as much as he loved the rest of us.  I respect the way both of my parents dealt with that.

     

    I guess I am saying this because there might be a chance that your children might want a relationship with their sister.  I wonder how you would feel about that?  Given that I am rather in the habit of extending my family by giving special people family status I could imagine that I would be like that.

     

    But then as the mum of children and the wife of the father I can understand how this all seems like such a lot to handle and everyone has the potential of gaining a family member by blood relationship except me. - Where would that leave me - would I be left out?  Would I be seen as not central in all of this - how could I be part of this connection when I feel so hurt?

     

    There are no clear easy ways to get through this maze are there?  I think it might take me a while to sort through my feelings before I could make any decisions - so I hope that your husband is allowing you the space to deal with all of this.  I am thinking of you Snoopy and sending you lots of love and hugs because this must be very upsetting.  UM xx

     

  • 09/09/2008 @ 12:51 alba said:
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    Dear Snoopy

    I can understand your immeadiate rage finding out so late- but I don`t see how it can threaten your life together- you are still a close foursome and your husband has not cheated on you later on. You might even find that meeting his daughter will make you stronger both you as a person and you as a family.

    As a mother of an adopted child I understand the feeling of wanting to know your roots. If it works out well you can decide to see more of her and if not seeing her one time will not hurt anyone.

    Hugs alba

  • 14/09/2008 @ 08:34 roze said:
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    Hi snoopy, just wondering how you are doing? Hugs roze
  • 16/09/2008 @ 01:02 snoopy said:
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    My main issue is my relationship with my husband. I just feel totally stressed and anxious all the time especially when I am with him. My feelings are not always rational I know that but that doesnt make them any less real. Some days I just never want to see him again but he is determined we have to stay together. Our relationship was not strong before this happened he lied to me and often let me down making commitments he never meant to keep - often over trivial domestic stuff so I just put up with it safe I thought in the knowledge that I could trust him over important things. Now I know that isnt true, I dont believe anything he says. This is very hard to live with. Why cant he just treat me properly???? I have to live with the knowledge that this girl exists and that is hard but if our relationship was ok I think I could try to deal with that.

    She has not treated us with any respect or care for our feelings. Her first contact with my husband was to turn up at our frontdoor with her partner We only have her word for who she - is there is no legal evidence. Birth fathers seem to have no right to any information. I was not home when she came and he asked her to only contact him in future until he could sort out his feelings etc. She did not do that instead months later rang my then teenage daughter and said 'Hello I'm your sister - your dad doesnt want you to know about me How is your brother?' My daughter was so freaked out she just hung up and told no-one. She didnt tell me because she knew I didnt know. Then a year later I got my phonecall this time from this girls partner who told me about her and seemed to find it amusing that I didnt know. He seemed to know alot about us which I found very threatening as if they had been stalking us. I too was so stunned I said very little. My husband has tried to phone her and she just hangs up and wont speak to him. What does she want? This has all taken place over several years. We do not feel very positive towards a person who would behave in this way She would not really fit in - my children and I do not treat people with so little regard for their feelings no matter what they have done. I feel that I have the right to set limits on how I will be treated by her. She really has no right to interfere with our marriage - I am nothing to her and have done nothing to her. Because we have all been hurt by her attitude my husband wants nothing to do with her.

    I want to deal with issues with her as they come about. What is way more important to me is dealing with my marriage relationship and protecting my children. I need help to move forward but I just dont know how. How do I deal with this constant anxiety and panic? I just want to feel normal again

  • 16/09/2008 @ 06:18 alba said:
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    Hi Snoopy

    I think that your last writing changes a lot. It is not acceptable that this girl phones your daughters and keep turning up without being invited. I agree it must feel like stalking. Now that she has told everyone in the family you can hope that she has achieved what she came for. Aside from a restraining order I cannot think of anything else to stop her.

    I guess the real issue here is whether or not you can get a worthwhile relationship to your husband again. I can only think of counselling as a mean to come across this. I think you need somebody from "outside" to help both of you.

    Lots of support from me!

     

  • 16/09/2008 @ 11:11 UMxx said:
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    Dear Snoopy,

    Goodness, this is quite an agressive approach to trying to build a relationship with family - I am not surprised by the stress that you feel.  I reckon the best to be done is to acknowledge that your husband needs to provide the leadership on this and start to deal with how this is affecting his family.  He might need support and encouragement to do this but it is something that he is best placed to manage.

     

    This is a challenging situation for you and I am guessing that until you can find some space to work this through it will feel like you are struggling to swim through treacle.  I am sending you warm wishes   UM xxx 

  • 17/09/2008 @ 03:38 snoopy said:
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    Thanks for your support - it really helps!!
  • 17/09/2008 @ 05:04 harmony said:
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    hi Snoopy

     

    What you are going through sounds very difficult and my heart goes out to you.

     

     It reminds me of the expereince of someone I know. Had a daughter, left the mother  when daughter was about 2 and didn't want anything to do with them, although he always paid child maintenance to the mother. He married very happily and had no other children, by choice.  When she was in late teens the daughter  must somehow have got his details - probably from mother - and was so angry that he hadn't wanted to be in her life that she started acting out her hurt by contacting him by turning up at the door, making phone calls, writing abusive letters and even turning up at his work, which was hugely difficult and all intentionally to cause him problems.

     

    It's all an area of very strong emotions all around, as you have found out.  It's so very very easy for a young man to contribute to conception and, perhaps like your husband, know nothing about it, or to not want to be involved in a relationship and not give possible fatherhood a thought at the time.  Drunken one night stands produce many children and the father may never even know.  Thousands of men keep these sorts of secrets (if they indeed know) and could it be he thought he'd lose you if he'd told you many years ago?  If there is no indication that he has been with the mother since, you may need to think of a way to let go of thinking he was unfaithful -   you will drive yourself crazy thinking that way.  Your husband is who he is now, husband and father of a close family, not who he was as a daft lad 30 odd years ago.

     

    I'm not embroiled in it  and don't feel the pain of it, but I'd say be open will all the family so that there is no one else she can shock, have a joint plan on how to deal with contact with the woman and if you can find it in your hearts, explain to her gently what, if any or no, contact you are prepared to have with her. And if necessary change you phone number and go ex directory!  Don't allow her the power to destroy what you have build up over 30 odd years. It could be she needs ackonowledgment and an apology for the past 30 odd years of no dad, but she has gone about it all the wrong way, unfortunately, and it is not acceptable.

     

    I have a friend who's husband fathered a son, unknowingly, 30 odd years ago and he contacted them in a positive no-guilt tripping way and they now refer to him and his family as 'our new family'' and have embrased him and his family and have a very good relationship with them.   I think it is all in the first appraoch and if through strong emotions you are not able to get that right, all can be lost.  I feel sorry for all of you involved in it, and I hope you can find a way through it all.

     

    Love, Harmony

  • 18/09/2008 @ 20:32 roze said:
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    Hello snoopy

    Your last post really touched me. I had no idea that this woman had acted in such an intrusive and threatening way. It sounds most unpleasant and perhaps someone acting from a position of hurt/anger more than anything else.

    Yet at the core there is your husband and your children - the family you hold close above all else. And it seems like you are a regular Mummy Lion when it comes to your children - wanting to protect them, keep them safe and carrying your own anxieties at the same time - that are never shared.

    I really wonder if you would find it helpful to manage to open a conversation with your husband that would help you reduce your anxiety and worries and loss of some trust in him. Does he know how you feel?

    I so very much admire how well you have handled this situation. Yet you need some peace from it to - so that it can come to rest in  you rather than niggling away and causing you pain

    love roze

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