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  • 11/12/2007 @ 14:04 savmut said:
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    Okay,  I have a question.  I am in a relationship with a good woman.  She has her moods, and her bad days, but she has a huge issue with privacy.  She doesn't want me sharing anything her and I talk about with anyone else, because she sees it as me sharing her private expressions.  I so don't see that as betraying her trust and voiding her privacy,  I share pretty much everything with my friends, and when I have problems with my relationship I go to my friends to get advice, which means I share everything that has happened with them.

    Last night we had a fight and she out right told me, that nothing we talk about, nothing about her can be shared to anyone else.  I have a major issue with this, cause she has effectively gagged me, and she wonders why I haven't introduced her to my friends. 

    Does anyone have any advice?  I do care for her, and it is probably my own stupid fault for getting myself in this deep with her, but I can't leave, she does make me smile, she makes me happy, for the most part, the fights are just awful though.  I think if we can survive this one we will be okay, I just don't know how to survive it with "me" still intact.

  • 11/12/2007 @ 14:30 zorro said:
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    Hey Savmut - I am a bit the same with my partner.. I know he talks about me with his mates, and I talk about him with mine, but we both say we'd rather the other one didn't (but we both still do it anyway!)

    Its a pride thing I think isn't it? The idea of people discussing you 'behind your back'.. Perhaps she is feeling insecure, perhaps she thinks that she is not worthy of you speaking highly of her, or indeed your friends taking her 'side' over yours...

    Do you think she discusses you with her mates??? 

  • 11/12/2007 @ 14:37 7vicar said:
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    afternoon savmut (if it's afternoon where you are, it is here, and not too grey...) What a pickle! I feel like there's two problems. Can you have a long term relationship with someone you haven't been keen to introduce to your friends? If they're so important to you (and it sounds like they are) it could be a long term problem.

    Then, because of my personal experience I'd probably ask another question - is there anything in her past that makes her behave this way, did she have her privacy betrayed, or did she become the subject of gossip maybe? I had a (not entirely objective!) version of my past shared by my ex with his new partner, by way of explanation of some things that went on. The problem is she is part of my wider social circle and with no loyalty to me had no qualms passing it along as gossip. It's horrible and makes me very wary of sharing still. Could she have a betrayal in her past?

  • 11/12/2007 @ 14:39 Wolfie said:
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    Dear savmut,  this is a difficult one as it is tied up with trust and honesty - and in a relationship both can be very tricky.

    My husband is a very private person and does not like me talking about our relationship to others.  I find this very difficult as I value other people's opinion as it helps me to set boundaries on behaviour which may or may not be acceptable.  This of course is a positive thing for my husband as I will be better behaved and far nicer to him, but he doesn't see it that way! 

    Whether or not you decide to honour your partner's request is up to you.  If you do, you have a clear conscience but no guidance, if you don't, you must make sure that she can never find out that you have confided in someone else.

    I hope you get through your current troubles - you sound like you love her very much indeed.

    Love Wolfie 

  • 11/12/2007 @ 14:41 savmut said:
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    Hi Zorro,

    Actually I have no idea if she talks about me to her friends.  I know that the last time we were having problems she mentioned it to her sister, but I don't think she talked about it.  She is intensely private, so I am almost 100% sure she hasn't talked about me to/with her friends.  She actually has called me on my reliance to my friends more than once.

     

  • 11/12/2007 @ 14:43 thorn said:
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    Most of us in relationships with married people have a form of this issue. Our lovers ask us not to discuss our relationships because it would hurt their relationships with their spouses if tiever got back to the spouse. We also have to live with the knowledge that our lovers don't discuss us with their friends.

     

    It is one of the most hurtful truths about being the "other person".  

     

    I want my loves to bring me into their lives by discussing me with their family and friends. By not discussing me I remain an outsider, and when you love someone not being invited into their lives is painful. I don't think I can adequitely describe exactly how painful it is right now.

     

    I don't understand why someone would purposely want to not become a part of their love's daily life. I would be very confused (as well as a little bit hurt) if I was told that someone I liked and who's company I enjoyed didn't want to be part of my life.

  • 11/12/2007 @ 14:45 savmut said:
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    7Vicar,

    Actually it is morning where I am. :)  Almost 11 AM actually, but good afternoon to you. 

    I...you know I never thought about that angle, and in retrospect she has had her trust betrayed by and ex, unfortunately it almost cost her her job,...d*mn.  She is right, to an extent to be this private, with her job she cannot afford to have gossip about her, I forgot that, because my job is completely different from hers, I have no "moral convictions/ethical behaviour laws" which could be used to fire me, she does.

    Thank you.

  • 11/12/2007 @ 16:09 7vicar said:
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    I think it's great that you want to work on it with her, not just walk away, as so many people seem to these days. I hope you can help to learn to trust, sounds like you have a relationship worth fighting for.
  • 11/12/2007 @ 21:19 roze said:
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    Savmut - what a wonderful talkabout - such an important one to bring up. I think your girl has a point. I have had the experience of relatively informal acquaintances telling me things because a partner has talked with them  - and i just don't like it. And it does not have to be big stuff. I just want to choose who i share what with and when. If you are with someone who is very open and chats to their mates a lot - i think that is great - so long as they are chatting about their own issues. I never tell anything a friend shares with me to anyone else at all. I would consider it a complete betrayal of their trust. And like your girl - i had a bad early experience around trust that has left its mark!! Hhmm - can you see you have touched a nerve here with me?

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