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Vampire Friend

  • 27/12/2007 @ 09:19 thorn said:
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    Have you ever had a friend who did something so terrible that it changed your perception of the world and by association, them? Something so awful that it was as if your friend, the person you knew and trusted, died and left this other being in their place?

     

    I did.

     

    I do.

     

    And now he's back.

     

    I look at him and see the person he used to be. I remember. But, there's something off. And I know I can't trust him. But he looks the same and he sounds the same and he feels the same. And a part of me wants to trust him because of what we shared. But then I remember the betrayal.

     

    I call this "vampire syndrome". It's when someone you love dies metaphysically and you try to come to terms with the new person they have become.

     

    My friend is an addict. He has been in and out of rehab and the first couple of times I was very supportive. The last time he lapsed I cut him out of my life.

     

    I received an email from him a couple of weeks ago and it said "[My First Name] I separate Thorn from you.  Welcome, and be loved, I bear no ill-will." 

     

    I did not answer it. First, because I have decided not to interact with him, and second, because the message confused the heck out of me. How can you separate me from me?

     

    Tonight I received a rambling incoherrant email from him filled with profanities. I am sitting here crying because it hurts that someone I loved has fallen so far.  I don't know what to do or even why I still care.

  • 27/12/2007 @ 10:03 ChocolateCake said:
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    Oh thorn, I think you care so much because you still can see your friend in there - as you said he looks the same, sounds the same. But there comes a time, particularly with an addict where you have to draw a line under the friendship, and mourn it properly, because it's not helping you or him. It seems you put so much energy into being strong about ending the friendship you forgot to grieve the loss of it. It's a death in every sense of the word and you need to allow yourself the time to grieve it.

    You say you don't know what to do. Is your friend making demands of you, asking for specific support or help? Or is it your loyalty to him that's making you want to help right now? Do you feel the friendship is worth saving, or is the dilemma for you right now about trying to save your friend, regardless of where it leaves your relationship? I can make a assumption based on what you've posted on here, that you are someone who will walk on hot coals for those you care about and I can't being to imagine how much your heart is breaking to see your friend in such a bad place.

  • 27/12/2007 @ 14:01 Brown Bear said:
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    Nothing so awful has ever happened to me so I can only see your position Thorn from my own male point of view.  I would agree that this person has turned to you for help but he should not be doing that until he had kicked his habit for good.  Burdening you with his problem is totally out of order - OK perhaps if he was a blood relative.  The logical thing to do is to take an action that might make him sort himself out.  Then if he comes to you for recuperation or rehabilitation, ready to 'pay his way', you can re-consider.  But I would not be taking into my care,  a person who I could not trust.

    I have become accustomed to my lady making decisions based on emotional factors that have no logic behind them at all.  So you will be forgiven for making similar decisions, but I think its OK for me to offer my logical option.
  • 27/12/2007 @ 19:50 thorn said:
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    Thank you for your replies.

     


    CC, He is not making any demands of me or asking for support. I live 1500 miles from him so there is little I could offer him in concrete support. Most of what I have offered in the past has been emotional support and I find that I cannot offer even that any more.

     


    I guess it is hard to let go of my friendship. I have known him since we were 10 years old. He introduced me to my husband and one of my current loves. I am close to his family. He was there for me when many other people weren't.

     


    Ten years ago he became addicted to prescription drugs and it spiraled down into other, nastier, addictions. I remember visiting him and not recognizing the person he had become. My reaction seemed to be a wake up call and several months after my visit he entered rehab for the first time.

     


    He would be clean for a while, but the addictions always seemed to catch up with him.

     


    BB, the last time he started acting irrationally I told him that if he was using again I would cut all contact with him. He denied it, but, he was using again and when I received confirmation of this I quit talking to him.

     


    I can't believe the months of hell I went through can be summarized in two sentences.

     


    After last night's email I'm not sure I'm ever going to be ready to talk to or see him again.

     


    I guess this is where my dilemma is... My boy is still in contact with the vampire friend (VF). He is (gently) encouraging me to give the friendship another chance. He reminds me of the good times and the close friendship that I had with the VF.

     


    So I am torn between what I want to do (cut off all contact) and making one of my loves happy.

  • 27/12/2007 @ 20:23 Brown Bear said:
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    Nothing is ever as simple is it seems at first sight.  You refer to your Vampire Friend, which makes me think that he has or does drain you of the sympathy and care that you would naturally give him.  My only acquaintance with drugs stops at Nicotine and Alcohol - I am addicted to neither so its not easy for my to sympathise with your VF.  Your 'boy' is not going to be the one to suffer nor [presumably] is he the one carrying the scars of your previous encounter so he should not really be encouraging you to help.  I'm glad that 1500 miles separates you, because you can at least offer some moral support, if you feel you must, without necessarily being overwhelmed by his needs.  Sleep on it and tread warily.
  • 28/12/2007 @ 19:46 thorn said:
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    Well, the VF has managed to drive wedge between me and both my loves.

     

    One of them has known the VF for longer than I have and has been through everything with me and now is disappointed that I'm not more open and forgiving. I understand his viewpoint, but I don't accept it.

     

    We are in a dialogue now trying to work our way through this.

     

    My married love told me that he no longer wants to discuss this type of thing with me because he can't really help me and it annoys him. Then he let me know that he was uncomfortable with some of my conversations because he feels I overstep my bounds.

     

    I let my married love know (in the gentlest way possible) that intimacy in one area leads to intimacy in another, and vice versa.

     

    He's leaving on holiday tomorrow so this is going to be unresolved until he gets back.

     

    The bad part of my married love and I is we co-chair an organization and because of this we have almost daily contact, and now I feel ackward. Whatever happens I'm sure I'll get over it. 

  • 30/12/2007 @ 07:47 tracya said:
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    i was married to an addict who went through rehab several times...his family and i were supportive at first but after years and years and years of it even his family (a very large close italian/irish family) have distanced themselves from him and we have all discouraged my/our adult children not to get involved in his drama.

     it's extremely hard for everyone, he wanted to move back with his mother but she had to tell him no...he has truly broken her heart. 

    the saddest part is that he just turned 50 on christmas day, but because he is on probation, (for giving his daughter from another marraige methadone) he spent it alone in one state while my two sons and his enitre family celebrated together in another state.

    it was a very hard, painful realization for me to make that i could not help him, i could not change him and he was going to do drugs whenever he could. please try to be involved from a distance and not get sucked in. it's never black and white, you want to feel that this time they really mean it, this time they'll stay clean and sober but i would leave it to the professionals.and sometimes being homeless, hungry and lonely still doesn't make them change...

     stay strong for yourself and if he ever really does clean up he will know that you did the right thing for him!

  • 31/12/2007 @ 13:06 roze said:
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    Goodness Thorn - what a painful situation. You have lost a good friend as in choosing addiction as his best friend he excluded all others in any meaningful sense. If you have a serious addiction there can be no other friends. So you have had to bear this loss.

    Then for him to write you an ugly mail is totally unacceptable - it is like rubbing salt into a wound. It feels to me that he is somehow punishing you - as it will always be easier to punish others unless you are prepared to take a good long look at yourself and see that you are the root of the plant you have become.

    And just as only he can choose to take that look, only you can choose how you relate to him meaning that those around you need to respect the choice you have made. It has not been made without a lot of pain and thought. I am so very sorry that you lost this friend and i very much respect your decision to not communicate with him at this time. He has to let you go until he has something to offer other than his profanities and shadow of self.

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